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Match Thread: Forest Green Rovers v Lincoln City
13 September 2017 10:59 Post ID: #736709 - in reply to #736083
92 Ron Harbertson
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"I think the main reason why we are seeing a lot more moans and groans about us is simply this, the old LCFC would more often than not give up a very easy 3pts. This new LCFC is a far different animal and teams and supporters know it's not an easy game for them anymore. Long gone are the days when we would just turn up, roll over and let teams walk all over us, long may it's continue."

We are also not perceived as the big dogs in the kennels the way we were last season. To other League 2 fans we're the team that won the National conference and therefore should be expected to struggle a bit this season, as it happens their first experience of us is how we fight and scrap for every ball, have a gameplan set up specifically for our opponents and aren't afraid to mix it when it gets physical, hence the tags and labels

Also for many of us this is the first Lincoln team in many many years that can actually knock it about and maintain possession should it choose to, it's a lovely change for us but for fans of other teams in this league this may actually be nothing new or revelatory in regards to watching their team, just the norm. We watch and purr as we "go through the thirds (c. D.Cowley) some other fans see it as "football"
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13 September 2017 11:05 Post ID: #736711 - in reply to #736083
86 Ian Branfoot
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The match stats do not support the notion we had no chances 13 goal attempts to their 9, on target we had 7 to their 2. As for the long ball, how bad are the opposition if the long ball side has 59% possession?
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13 September 2017 11:21 Post ID: #736716 - in reply to #736083
85 Horace Green
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There have always been lower league managers (and players, fans etc) who like to make out they're some sort of Junior Barcelona haven't there? It's always rubbish as well. Basically players at this level aren't good enough on the whole to consistently take the ball while under heavy pressure and play the right pass (actually English players even at the top level struggle with that). So stand off them and they can do it and tell themselves how good they are but put the pressure on and they end up taking the long out-ball up the pitch.

And if they think they shouldn't be pressured on the ball then
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13 September 2017 11:26 Post ID: #736719 - in reply to #736083
84 Dick Krzywicki
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The pre-season or pre-conceived view of a team is an interesting one. I hope we don't apply it to Accrington and Newport. And at the other end of the scale, no need to over-respect the favourites like Mansfield, Swindon or Coventry. Uti
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13 September 2017 12:06 Post ID: #736737 - in reply to #736083
88 Freddy Simpson
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I just felt we outplayed them all over the pitch. Our defence handled everything they threw at us with ease.We were stronger than they were. Their passing was terrible, they gave the ball away a lot. That said we weren't much better regards the passing. Obviously the weather was to blame for passes going astray and over hit etc. We were harder mentally, and handled the conditions better.
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13 September 2017 12:19 Post ID: #736739 - in reply to #736083
65 Jimmy Grummett Jnr
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At least there are one or two more balanced comments on the FGR forum now, although some fella wouldn't want the Cowleys to manage their club.

Wouldn't worry about them pitching up at their place if I were them...
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13 September 2017 13:16 Post ID: #736759 - in reply to #736083
87 Bobby Owen
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We'll always get teams moaning about us, our style of play, management, bullying etc.

We're obviously winning games that they feel we shouldn't but it proves we're getting it right.
I know which camp I'd rather be in
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13 September 2017 13:27 Post ID: #736761 - in reply to #736687
76 John McClelland
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GreenNeedle - 13/9/2017 09:50

Opposition managers from upper echelons are the same (Hughton.) They come in with no research and a preconceived view of how we play, then ignore what they see in the 90 minutes and win or lose base their whole media interview around moaning about what they had decided pre-match.

We could take a team apart with Barcelona-esque tiki taka, score 5 superb team goals totalling 150 passes all on the ground with us running rings around them to the point we didn't even need to tackle them to get the ball and the post match interview would see the opposition manager state that they couldn't deal with our physicality and how we rely on set pieces.



That sums it up exactly for me - preconceptions remain unaltered regardless of what has actually taken place on the pitch.
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13 September 2017 14:45 Post ID: #736786 - in reply to #736761
67 George Whyte
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Talking of bad reporting from the local PGR press:

From the Stroud Newspaper (on line), can anyone spot the mistake:

"...LEAGUE TWO

FOREST GREEN 0

LINCOLN CITY 2

FOREST GREEN fell to their fourth consecutive league defeat after a defensive calamity handed Lincoln City the points on a mucky night.

The match looked to be heading for a spirited stalemate until Neal Eardley's torpedo kick saw Harry Anderson get in between Dale Bennett and keeper Brad Collins to prod the ball into the inviting net with 65 minutes on the clock.

Bad blood surfaced after the final whistle with a bout of pushing and shoving involving both sets of players and coaching teams...."

http://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/sport/15531102.FOREST_GREEN_R...
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13 September 2017 14:56 Post ID: #736790 - in reply to #736083
86 Ian Branfoot
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Oh yes, that famous Stroud aerial torpedo makes another appearance, possibly due to the torrential rain. Even by their standards it was a very high torpedo, no wonder Bennet got his head out of the way.

Edited by berksimps 13/9/2017 14:58
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13 September 2017 15:18 Post ID: #736794 - in reply to #736083
85 Horace Green
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A torpedo would go under the pitch surely. If we're deploying that as a tactic then they're right to be annoyed!
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13 September 2017 15:28 Post ID: #736795 - in reply to #736083
86 Ian Branfoot
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Just noticed the league table. Take a bow defence - only team in the division to concede less than us is Coventry.
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13 September 2017 15:40 Post ID: #736796 - in reply to #736687
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GreenNeedle - 13/9/2017 09:50

Opposition managers from upper echelons are the same (Hughton.) They come in with no research and a preconceived view of how we play, then ignore what they see in the 90 minutes and win or lose base their whole media interview around moaning about what they had decided pre-match.



This +1
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13 September 2017 15:44 Post ID: #736797 - in reply to #736786
96 John Finnigan
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"...LEAGUE TWO

FOREST GREEN 0

LINCOLN CITY 2


I'm not sure that is quite right.
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13 September 2017 15:55 Post ID: #736799 - in reply to #736786
96 John Finnigan
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It was more like a good old fashioned Hoof GB/ Holmes defence splitting assist....but with more finesse. The journo got the score wrong and a torpedo would have gone under not into orbit. Moonball would have been a better term.

Overall a poor article and the journo seems to have given up too.


Edited by UnbelievableJeff 13/9/2017 15:59
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13 September 2017 19:25 Post ID: #736868 - in reply to #736083
93 Derek Bell
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But the problem is that a clearance is just that. It doesn't mean you are long ball or a hoofball team. Some fans seem to think defenders under pressure should be trapping the ball under pressure and starting the next passing move but when the opposition (FGR) are playing a hoof game down the middle and pressurising the follow up then of course you will get a lot of clearances.

Like another poster said earlier. If they could be so kind as to stand off our defence once they've played their long ball to their big man then they would see Raggett or partner trap it and start a passing move like they did constantly towards the end of the Luton game when Luton seemed to have decided to hold back.
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